Comments on: Device vs platform and some good signs for Android http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/ Nic Brisbourne's view from London on venture capital and exploiting change in technology and media Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: brisbourne http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8967 brisbourne Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:24:22 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8967 That's true Jof. The one thing that is undeniable is that the market is really moving That's true Jof. The one thing that is undeniable is that the market is really moving

]]> By: Jof Arnold http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8966 Jof Arnold Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:11:28 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8966 This is an overstated issue I think - especially for the vast majority of apps that have simple layouts and are mostly rendered client-side. It's also one that'll diminish greatly once things have settled down in the Android space. Android has other challenges, as Nic points out, but this isn't such a major one. My £0.0132 This is an overstated issue I think – especially for the vast majority of apps that have simple layouts and are mostly rendered client-side. It's also one that'll diminish greatly once things have settled down in the Android space. Android has other challenges, as Nic points out, but this isn't such a major one. My £0.0132

]]> By: Jof Arnold http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8965 Jof Arnold Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:05:32 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8965 Something like 70-ish% of purchases in the first weekend were upgraders. Check AppleInsider, where it's touted as proof iPhone owners love their devices and remain loyal.<br><br>Lots of stats in the article I don't agree with, but ultimately it doesn't matter; whether or not you side with google or apple or simply don't care, it's a great time to be in mobile dev. Thanks Steve! Something like 70-ish% of purchases in the first weekend were upgraders. Check AppleInsider, where it's touted as proof iPhone owners love their devices and remain loyal.

Lots of stats in the article I don't agree with, but ultimately it doesn't matter; whether or not you side with google or apple or simply don't care, it's a great time to be in mobile dev. Thanks Steve!

]]> By: Android Game http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-11904 Android Game Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:04:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-11904 Oh this topic... It would be interesting to see the statistics of load compared to the load. I 'm guessing the latter is much higher. Nice to visit your site. Wish you post another good topic like this. I will wait to read it. Oh this topic… It would be interesting to see the statistics of load compared to the load. I ‘m guessing the latter is much higher. Nice to visit your site. Wish you post another good topic like this. I will wait to read it.

]]> By: brisbourne http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8938 brisbourne Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:11:40 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8938 Good point Nicholas. I haven't seen the data either, but my gut is that you are right and this is another indicator in favour of Android prevailing. Good point Nicholas. I haven't seen the data either, but my gut is that you are right and this is another indicator in favour of Android prevailing.

]]> By: Nicholas Lovell http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8935 Nicholas Lovell Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:34:38 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8935 But here's a question for you: how many Apple 4 sales are upgrades not new purchases.<br><br>Apple is a hardware manufacturer. It doesn't care about new users. If every single iPhone 4 sold to an existing iPhone user (and my Twitter stream suggest a high proportion), it's not growing the user base.<br><br>On the other hand, as you say, Android is a platform. And Google seems more focused on new users, not upgrading users. <br><br>My point is that the raw sales numbes *may* hide a key fact: that despite higher unit sales, the Android audience is growing faster than the Apple one. <br><br>I don't say this is the case- I'd just love to have the data to see. But here's a question for you: how many Apple 4 sales are upgrades not new purchases.

Apple is a hardware manufacturer. It doesn't care about new users. If every single iPhone 4 sold to an existing iPhone user (and my Twitter stream suggest a high proportion), it's not growing the user base.

On the other hand, as you say, Android is a platform. And Google seems more focused on new users, not upgrading users.

My point is that the raw sales numbes *may* hide a key fact: that despite higher unit sales, the Android audience is growing faster than the Apple one.

I don't say this is the case- I'd just love to have the data to see.

]]> By: brisbourne http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8926 brisbourne Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:29:09 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8926 It would be interesting to see usage stats for preloads compared with downloads. I'm guessing the latter is much higher. It would be interesting to see usage stats for preloads compared with downloads. I'm guessing the latter is much higher.

]]> By: RichardF http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8923 RichardF Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:42:52 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8923 I think the Shazam boys might disagree about preloading. It's an important route, particularly if you want to get into the Nokia/Samsung market. Preloading will eventually die out as everyone moves to some sort of smartphone OS but you can't forget about the mainstream. Which is easy to do when you are a techie. I think the Shazam boys might disagree about preloading. It's an important route, particularly if you want to get into the Nokia/Samsung market. Preloading will eventually die out as everyone moves to some sort of smartphone OS but you can't forget about the mainstream. Which is easy to do when you are a techie.

]]> By: brisbourne http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8915 brisbourne Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:39:58 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8915 Hi Kerry - I agree fragmentation is an issue for Android, as are payments systems. However, the developer enthusiasm reported in the survey suggests they are not killer concerns - at least at this stage. Hi Kerry – I agree fragmentation is an issue for Android, as are payments systems. However, the developer enthusiasm reported in the survey suggests they are not killer concerns – at least at this stage.

]]> By: kerryritz http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8914 kerryritz Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:37:32 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2010/07/06/device-vs-platform-and-some-good-signs-for-android/#comment-8914 The flipside of growth in Android deployments is the resulting fragmentation. Vision Mobile has an article summarising some of the issues which is worth reading. <a href="http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2010/05/the-many-faces-of-android-fragmentation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2010/05/the-ma...</a>.<br><br>The big question is whether Android fragmentation starts to resemble Java fragmentation, making it potentially more difficult for developers to rapidly develop and deploy across a more (rather than less) diverse device universe. The flipside of growth in Android deployments is the resulting fragmentation. Vision Mobile has an article summarising some of the issues which is worth reading. http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2010/05/the-ma….

The big question is whether Android fragmentation starts to resemble Java fragmentation, making it potentially more difficult for developers to rapidly develop and deploy across a more (rather than less) diverse device universe.

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