Comments on: Open-ness in the mobile value chain http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/ Nic Brisbourne's view from London on venture capital and exploiting change in technology and media Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: For Android’s sake Google should push the operators harder | The Equity Kicker http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3517 For Android’s sake Google should push the operators harder | The Equity Kicker Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:09:19 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3517 [...] Particularly as Apple is also screwing up… [...] [...] Particularly as Apple is also screwing up… [...]

]]> By: nic http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3485 nic Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:56:42 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3485 Thanks Jo. You make a good point, over the medium to long term it isn't clear why we need 'stores' at all. Thanks Jo. You make a good point, over the medium to long term it isn’t clear why we need ‘stores’ at all.

]]> By: nic http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11568 nic Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:56:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11568 Thanks Jo. You make a good point, over the medium to long term it isn't clear why we need 'stores' at all. Thanks Jo. You make a good point, over the medium to long term it isn’t clear why we need ‘stores’ at all.

]]> By: Jo Rabin http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3483 Jo Rabin Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:44:28 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3483 Building walled gardens is surely in Apple's blood, and they know a thing or two about it. <cite>So why is Apple a potential loser?</cite> Well, are they? If they are looking for a profitable and sizeable niche rather than a mass market, then they are not losing are they? From a developer perspective, as often observed, there is increasingly the choice of deploying Web apps rather than native apps, and you don't need to go to the Apple App store or indeed any other store. No you can't do everything that way - fwiw the <a href="http://mobilemonday.org.uk/2008/09/autumn-schedule-kicks-off.html" rel="nofollow">last MobileMonday London</a> looked at this issue and the resulting blog posts summarise some of the interesting discussion. Building walled gardens is surely in Apple’s blood, and they know a thing or two about it.

So why is Apple a potential loser?

Well, are they? If they are looking for a profitable and sizeable niche rather than a mass market, then they are not losing are they?

From a developer perspective, as often observed, there is increasingly the choice of deploying Web apps rather than native apps, and you don’t need to go to the Apple App store or indeed any other store.

No you can’t do everything that way – fwiw the last MobileMonday London looked at this issue and the resulting blog posts summarise some of the interesting discussion.

]]> By: Jo Rabin http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11567 Jo Rabin Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:44:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11567 Building walled gardens is surely in Apple's blood, and they know a thing or two about it. <cite>So why is Apple a potential loser?</cite> Well, are they? If they are looking for a profitable and sizeable niche rather than a mass market, then they are not losing are they? From a developer perspective, as often observed, there is increasingly the choice of deploying Web apps rather than native apps, and you don't need to go to the Apple App store or indeed any other store. No you can't do everything that way - fwiw the <a href="http://mobilemonday.org.uk/2008/09/autumn-schedule-kicks-off.html" rel="nofollow">last MobileMonday London</a> looked at this issue and the resulting blog posts summarise some of the interesting discussion. Building walled gardens is surely in Apple’s blood, and they know a thing or two about it.

So why is Apple a potential loser?

Well, are they? If they are looking for a profitable and sizeable niche rather than a mass market, then they are not losing are they?

From a developer perspective, as often observed, there is increasingly the choice of deploying Web apps rather than native apps, and you don’t need to go to the Apple App store or indeed any other store.

No you can’t do everything that way – fwiw the last MobileMonday London looked at this issue and the resulting blog posts summarise some of the interesting discussion.

]]> By: Evan Bartlett http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3481 Evan Bartlett Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:27:18 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3481 I agree completely! When the iphone launched everyone talked about how Jobs was taking it to the carriers and breaking their backs. Well, in the end, all they did was shift who gets to decide how to block apps on the platform. My buddy Justin launched the Instinctive player for the iphone and Additunes (similar to the genius playlist) long before apple did, and now both of these apps aren't allowed anymore. Time to go look at Tmobile and Android, or my fav, blackberry. I agree completely! When the iphone launched everyone talked about how Jobs was taking it to the carriers and breaking their backs. Well, in the end, all they did was shift who gets to decide how to block apps on the platform.

My buddy Justin launched the Instinctive player for the iphone and Additunes (similar to the genius playlist) long before apple did, and now both of these apps aren’t allowed anymore.

Time to go look at Tmobile and Android, or my fav, blackberry.

]]> By: Evan Bartlett http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11569 Evan Bartlett Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:27:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11569 I agree completely! When the iphone launched everyone talked about how Jobs was taking it to the carriers and breaking their backs. Well, in the end, all they did was shift who gets to decide how to block apps on the platform. My buddy Justin launched the Instinctive player for the iphone and Additunes (similar to the genius playlist) long before apple did, and now both of these apps aren't allowed anymore. Time to go look at Tmobile and Android, or my fav, blackberry. I agree completely! When the iphone launched everyone talked about how Jobs was taking it to the carriers and breaking their backs. Well, in the end, all they did was shift who gets to decide how to block apps on the platform.

My buddy Justin launched the Instinctive player for the iphone and Additunes (similar to the genius playlist) long before apple did, and now both of these apps aren’t allowed anymore.

Time to go look at Tmobile and Android, or my fav, blackberry.

]]> By: scott http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3478 scott Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:58:37 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-3478 thought provoking as usual. You highlight an important faultline in the genius of Steve Jobs. This closed position is also highlighted in the lack of willingness to disaggregate hardware from software in key instances. iTunes would arguably be more far reaching if accessible from other devices e.g. the G1, rather than indirectly boosting competition through Amazon. It's a pity because his legacy will be limited as a result. (via <a href="http://mippin.com/?ref=commentposting" rel="nofollow">Mippin</a> Mobile) thought provoking as usual. You highlight an important faultline in the genius of Steve Jobs. This closed position is also highlighted in the lack of willingness to disaggregate hardware from software in key instances. iTunes would arguably be more far reaching if accessible from other devices e.g. the G1, rather than indirectly boosting competition through Amazon. It’s a pity because his legacy will be limited as a result. (via Mippin Mobile)

]]> By: scott http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11570 scott Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:58:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/09/24/open-ness-in-the-mobile-value-chain/#comment-11570 thought provoking as usual. You highlight an important faultline in the genius of Steve Jobs. This closed position is also highlighted in the lack of willingness to disaggregate hardware from software in key instances. iTunes would arguably be more far reaching if accessible from other devices e.g. the G1, rather than indirectly boosting competition through Amazon. It's a pity because his legacy will be limited as a result. (via <a href="http://mippin.com/?ref=commentposting" rel="nofollow">Mippin</a> Mobile) thought provoking as usual. You highlight an important faultline in the genius of Steve Jobs. This closed position is also highlighted in the lack of willingness to disaggregate hardware from software in key instances. iTunes would arguably be more far reaching if accessible from other devices e.g. the G1, rather than indirectly boosting competition through Amazon. It’s a pity because his legacy will be limited as a result. (via Mippin Mobile)

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