Comments on: Communities are enabled, not created http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/ Nic Brisbourne's view from London on venture capital and exploiting change in technology and media Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nic http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2861 nic Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:47:57 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2861 Thanks for some great comments guys. Particularly Nnamdi - some great links. Thanks for some great comments guys. Particularly Nnamdi – some great links.

]]> By: nic http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11408 nic Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:47:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11408 Thanks for some great comments guys. Particularly Nnamdi - some great links. Thanks for some great comments guys. Particularly Nnamdi – some great links.

]]> By: James Penman http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2860 James Penman Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:57:01 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2860 I'm stating the obvious but different communities have different characters and I think one has to manage the potential community with that in mind. For example, I'm particularly interested in communities that generate tourism information. I'm not too interested in travel or tourism as self-expression(eg a blog) or as a means of meeting new people. I'm looking for detailed information. To do this I think you have to provide the technology, the means to filter that information and a big chunk of content to get the community working. I'm also expecting to sustain the input in terms of content thereafter. In terms of what I'm trying to achieve, I certainly do not think that one should 'get out of the way'. In terms of an analogy, look to your kids and the community that springs up around that which you love. I’m stating the obvious but different communities have different characters and I think one has to manage the potential community with that in mind. For example, I’m particularly interested in communities that generate tourism information. I’m not too interested in travel or tourism as self-expression(eg a blog) or as a means of meeting new people. I’m looking for detailed information. To do this I think you have to provide the technology, the means to filter that information and a big chunk of content to get the community working. I’m also expecting to sustain the input in terms of content thereafter. In terms of what I’m trying to achieve, I certainly do not think that one should ‘get out of the way’. In terms of an analogy, look to your kids and the community that springs up around that which you love.

]]> By: James Penman http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11409 James Penman Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:57:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11409 I'm stating the obvious but different communities have different characters and I think one has to manage the potential community with that in mind. For example, I'm particularly interested in communities that generate tourism information. I'm not too interested in travel or tourism as self-expression(eg a blog) or as a means of meeting new people. I'm looking for detailed information. To do this I think you have to provide the technology, the means to filter that information and a big chunk of content to get the community working. I'm also expecting to sustain the input in terms of content thereafter. In terms of what I'm trying to achieve, I certainly do not think that one should 'get out of the way'. In terms of an analogy, look to your kids and the community that springs up around that which you love. I’m stating the obvious but different communities have different characters and I think one has to manage the potential community with that in mind. For example, I’m particularly interested in communities that generate tourism information. I’m not too interested in travel or tourism as self-expression(eg a blog) or as a means of meeting new people. I’m looking for detailed information. To do this I think you have to provide the technology, the means to filter that information and a big chunk of content to get the community working. I’m also expecting to sustain the input in terms of content thereafter. In terms of what I’m trying to achieve, I certainly do not think that one should ‘get out of the way’. In terms of an analogy, look to your kids and the community that springs up around that which you love.

]]> By: Andy Warren http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2857 Andy Warren Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:30:47 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2857 There's a Darwinian aspect to the way communitities develop with an ultimate "survival of the fittest" being determined by the community itself. In the same way that nature can produce a mutation that may benefit or hinder an entity and lead to it's evolution or demise , the community can mutate in the same way. It just tends to happen on a much faster scale. If a community is hijacked and turned into a platform for gossip and scandal it will only survive if that's what the community members want from it. Equally, if the community is driven towards more serious topics but they don't engage or interest the community majority then it is likely to diminish. Communities these days are about common interest rather than physical proximity and to that extent the newspapers have always been a focal point with the common interests of Sun readers differing significantly from that of Guardian readers. What the newspapers can provide is the steerage and direction to reinvigorate the community if it becomes stale. And provide a platform for new community branches to spring into life. In business the same "common interest" will be what drives communities of IT specialists, VC commentators, entrepreneurs etc. And again what's needed is for the community contributors to provide stimulating and invigorating content to keep it alive and aligned with the common interest. There’s a Darwinian aspect to the way communitities develop with an ultimate “survival of the fittest” being determined by the community itself. In the same way that nature can produce a mutation that may benefit or hinder an entity and lead to it’s evolution or demise , the community can mutate in the same way. It just tends to happen on a much faster scale.

If a community is hijacked and turned into a platform for gossip and scandal it will only survive if that’s what the community members want from it. Equally, if the community is driven towards more serious topics but they don’t engage or interest the community majority then it is likely to diminish.

Communities these days are about common interest rather than physical proximity and to that extent the newspapers have always been a focal point with the common interests of Sun readers differing significantly from that of Guardian readers. What the newspapers can provide is the steerage and direction to reinvigorate the community if it becomes stale. And provide a platform for new community branches to spring into life.

In business the same “common interest” will be what drives communities of IT specialists, VC commentators, entrepreneurs etc. And again what’s needed is for the community contributors to provide stimulating and invigorating content to keep it alive and aligned with the common interest.

]]> By: Andy Warren http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11412 Andy Warren Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:30:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11412 There's a Darwinian aspect to the way communitities develop with an ultimate "survival of the fittest" being determined by the community itself. In the same way that nature can produce a mutation that may benefit or hinder an entity and lead to it's evolution or demise , the community can mutate in the same way. It just tends to happen on a much faster scale. If a community is hijacked and turned into a platform for gossip and scandal it will only survive if that's what the community members want from it. Equally, if the community is driven towards more serious topics but they don't engage or interest the community majority then it is likely to diminish. Communities these days are about common interest rather than physical proximity and to that extent the newspapers have always been a focal point with the common interests of Sun readers differing significantly from that of Guardian readers. What the newspapers can provide is the steerage and direction to reinvigorate the community if it becomes stale. And provide a platform for new community branches to spring into life. In business the same "common interest" will be what drives communities of IT specialists, VC commentators, entrepreneurs etc. And again what's needed is for the community contributors to provide stimulating and invigorating content to keep it alive and aligned with the common interest. There’s a Darwinian aspect to the way communitities develop with an ultimate “survival of the fittest” being determined by the community itself. In the same way that nature can produce a mutation that may benefit or hinder an entity and lead to it’s evolution or demise , the community can mutate in the same way. It just tends to happen on a much faster scale.

If a community is hijacked and turned into a platform for gossip and scandal it will only survive if that’s what the community members want from it. Equally, if the community is driven towards more serious topics but they don’t engage or interest the community majority then it is likely to diminish.

Communities these days are about common interest rather than physical proximity and to that extent the newspapers have always been a focal point with the common interests of Sun readers differing significantly from that of Guardian readers. What the newspapers can provide is the steerage and direction to reinvigorate the community if it becomes stale. And provide a platform for new community branches to spring into life.

In business the same “common interest” will be what drives communities of IT specialists, VC commentators, entrepreneurs etc. And again what’s needed is for the community contributors to provide stimulating and invigorating content to keep it alive and aligned with the common interest.

]]> By: leafar http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2856 leafar Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:20:43 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2856 Lepost.fr is a very good example of this strategy for the newspaper lemonde.fr (which has a brand new layout since today). Very interesting analysis. Lepost.fr is a very good example of this strategy for the newspaper lemonde.fr (which has a brand new layout since today).
Very interesting analysis.

]]> By: leafar http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11413 leafar Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:20:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11413 Lepost.fr is a very good example of this strategy for the newspaper lemonde.fr (which has a brand new layout since today). Very interesting analysis. Lepost.fr is a very good example of this strategy for the newspaper lemonde.fr (which has a brand new layout since today).
Very interesting analysis.

]]> By: Nnamdi http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2855 Nnamdi Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:58:07 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-2855 Nick, your views are echoed by Facebook's founder in that you cannot "create" community. His term for facebook is elegant organisation. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jun/11/mondaymediasection.news It also ties in nicely with Clayton Christensen's perspective that people hire tools to get jobs done. http://www.dinarstandard.com/innovation/ClaytonC022807.htm One way to start could be to define the jobs, even in a broad sense (eg building social capital), and wrap a service around those goals. To get it right, it is worth thinging about how the community would define recognise and define social capital. These might be of interest: http://blog.mixergy.com/why-how-to-build-social-capital-online-tara-hunt-interview/ http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/making-whuffie http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/happiness-as-your-business-model-414463 Nick, your views are echoed by Facebook’s founder in that you cannot “create” community. His term for facebook is elegant organisation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jun/11/mondaymediasection.news

It also ties in nicely with Clayton Christensen’s perspective that people hire tools to get jobs done.
http://www.dinarstandard.com/innovation/ClaytonC022807.htm

One way to start could be to define the jobs, even in a broad sense (eg building social capital), and wrap a service around those goals. To get it right, it is worth thinging about how the community would define recognise and define social capital.

These might be of interest:

http://blog.mixergy.com/why-how-to-build-social-capital-online-tara-hunt-interview/

http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/making-whuffie

http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/happiness-as-your-business-model-414463

]]> By: Nnamdi http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11410 Nnamdi Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:58:00 +0000 http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/07/16/communities-are-enabled-not-created/#comment-11410 Nick, your views are echoed by Facebook's founder in that you cannot "create" community. His term for facebook is elegant organisation. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jun/11/mondaymediasection.news It also ties in nicely with Clayton Christensen's perspective that people hire tools to get jobs done. http://www.dinarstandard.com/innovation/ClaytonC022807.htm One way to start could be to define the jobs, even in a broad sense (eg building social capital), and wrap a service around those goals. To get it right, it is worth thinging about how the community would define recognise and define social capital. These might be of interest: http://blog.mixergy.com/why-how-to-build-social-capital-online-tara-hunt-interview/ http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/making-whuffie http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/happiness-as-your-business-model-414463 Nick, your views are echoed by Facebook’s founder in that you cannot “create” community. His term for facebook is elegant organisation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jun/11/mondaymediasection.news

It also ties in nicely with Clayton Christensen’s perspective that people hire tools to get jobs done.
http://www.dinarstandard.com/innovation/ClaytonC022807.htm

One way to start could be to define the jobs, even in a broad sense (eg building social capital), and wrap a service around those goals. To get it right, it is worth thinging about how the community would define recognise and define social capital.

These might be of interest:

http://blog.mixergy.com/why-how-to-build-social-capital-online-tara-hunt-interview/

http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/making-whuffie

http://www.slideshare.net/missrogue/happiness-as-your-business-model-414463

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