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		<title>By: Jof Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-1662</link>
		<dc:creator>Jof Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe - I feel like we&#039;re accosting Nic&#039;s blog here as a temporary Blog Friends forum!  

Thanks Chris, Daniel! Blog Friends definitely has some very supportive followers despite the service issues we had towards the end - we&#039;re very grateful to those people.  Whether or not funding is forthcoming out of this, I&#039;m definitely up for any inventive plans that could get us back on track (as much as Luke, Benjie and I love webdev/consultancy, it&#039;s very time-consuming!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe &#8211; I feel like we&#8217;re accosting Nic&#8217;s blog here as a temporary Blog Friends forum!  </p>
<p>Thanks Chris, Daniel! Blog Friends definitely has some very supportive followers despite the service issues we had towards the end &#8211; we&#8217;re very grateful to those people.  Whether or not funding is forthcoming out of this, I&#8217;m definitely up for any inventive plans that could get us back on track (as much as Luke, Benjie and I love webdev/consultancy, it&#8217;s very time-consuming!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jof Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-11217</link>
		<dc:creator>Jof Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe - I feel like we&#039;re accosting Nic&#039;s blog here as a temporary Blog Friends forum!  

Thanks Chris, Daniel! Blog Friends definitely has some very supportive followers despite the service issues we had towards the end - we&#039;re very grateful to those people.  Whether or not funding is forthcoming out of this, I&#039;m definitely up for any inventive plans that could get us back on track (as much as Luke, Benjie and I love webdev/consultancy, it&#039;s very time-consuming!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe &#8211; I feel like we&#8217;re accosting Nic&#8217;s blog here as a temporary Blog Friends forum!  </p>
<p>Thanks Chris, Daniel! Blog Friends definitely has some very supportive followers despite the service issues we had towards the end &#8211; we&#8217;re very grateful to those people.  Whether or not funding is forthcoming out of this, I&#8217;m definitely up for any inventive plans that could get us back on track (as much as Luke, Benjie and I love webdev/consultancy, it&#8217;s very time-consuming!)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, thanks for weighing in.

I wasn&#039;t pinning all of the blame on the angel market. I just think think it is a shame to have to learn the lessons this way, rather than hanving help in preventing it occurring in the first place. A great angel network would probably swoop in and help the solid team and idea that you guys have. That is less likely to happen in London. Full time startups are hard. Part time startups simply don&#039;t work.

This is why ideas die this side of the pond. Only the minted can afford to play the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, thanks for weighing in.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t pinning all of the blame on the angel market. I just think think it is a shame to have to learn the lessons this way, rather than hanving help in preventing it occurring in the first place. A great angel network would probably swoop in and help the solid team and idea that you guys have. That is less likely to happen in London. Full time startups are hard. Part time startups simply don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>This is why ideas die this side of the pond. Only the minted can afford to play the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-11216</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, thanks for weighing in.

I wasn&#039;t pinning all of the blame on the angel market. I just think think it is a shame to have to learn the lessons this way, rather than hanving help in preventing it occurring in the first place. A great angel network would probably swoop in and help the solid team and idea that you guys have. That is less likely to happen in London. Full time startups are hard. Part time startups simply don&#039;t work.

This is why ideas die this side of the pond. Only the minted can afford to play the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, thanks for weighing in.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t pinning all of the blame on the angel market. I just think think it is a shame to have to learn the lessons this way, rather than hanving help in preventing it occurring in the first place. A great angel network would probably swoop in and help the solid team and idea that you guys have. That is less likely to happen in London. Full time startups are hard. Part time startups simply don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>This is why ideas die this side of the pond. Only the minted can afford to play the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Osborne</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-1655</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it&#039;ll be interesting to see how the investor community reponds, and whether it&#039;s sufficiently joined-up for potential angels/other backers to pick up on this (assuming there is some interest). I feel a cause celebre coming on. Facebook group, anybody?: &quot;Bring back Blogfriends (and show us the money)!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how the investor community reponds, and whether it&#8217;s sufficiently joined-up for potential angels/other backers to pick up on this (assuming there is some interest). I feel a cause celebre coming on. Facebook group, anybody?: &#8220;Bring back Blogfriends (and show us the money)!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Osborne</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-11215</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it&#039;ll be interesting to see how the investor community reponds, and whether it&#039;s sufficiently joined-up for potential angels/other backers to pick up on this (assuming there is some interest). I feel a cause celebre coming on. Facebook group, anybody?: &quot;Bring back Blogfriends (and show us the money)!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how the investor community reponds, and whether it&#8217;s sufficiently joined-up for potential angels/other backers to pick up on this (assuming there is some interest). I feel a cause celebre coming on. Facebook group, anybody?: &#8220;Bring back Blogfriends (and show us the money)!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Razzell</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-1654</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Razzell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nic and Daniel—thanks for your kind words. What Jof says pretty much sums up my perspective also. That said, if an investor *had* of thrown a chunk of money at us, I have every confidence we would have re-architected Blog Friends outside Facebook and scaleably and gone from strength to strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nic and Daniel—thanks for your kind words. What Jof says pretty much sums up my perspective also. That said, if an investor *had* of thrown a chunk of money at us, I have every confidence we would have re-architected Blog Friends outside Facebook and scaleably and gone from strength to strength.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Razzell</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-11214</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Razzell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nic and Daniel—thanks for your kind words. What Jof says pretty much sums up my perspective also. That said, if an investor *had* of thrown a chunk of money at us, I have every confidence we would have re-architected Blog Friends outside Facebook and scaleably and gone from strength to strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nic and Daniel—thanks for your kind words. What Jof says pretty much sums up my perspective also. That said, if an investor *had* of thrown a chunk of money at us, I have every confidence we would have re-architected Blog Friends outside Facebook and scaleably and gone from strength to strength.</p>
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		<title>By: Jof Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-1650</link>
		<dc:creator>Jof Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel - I feel a bit awkward discussing this on a VC&#039;s blog, especially one who&#039;s been so supportive as Nic... but I&#039;ll respond anyway ;-)

On the one hand, you&#039;re right in that the userbase shouldn&#039;t have been an issue; MyBlogLog had about 50k users when it was sold to Yahoo for $10m and their data isn&#039;t a patch on ours in terms of quality.  Furthermore, our service solved real problems in the market (both in a B2C and B2B sense).  However, it&#039;s worth recognising that they sold because a) they had a vast amount of user cookies b) it was at a time when yahoo would have paid anything to get what was effectively a very comprehensive survey of the blogosphere.  I.e. they were lucky - something that Rafer&#039;s happy to admit.

On the other hand, the reality was that we didn&#039;t communicate our business plan well enough and fast enough to the right people.  Now, you might argue that UK angels don&#039;t take enough risks (versus seemingly funding pretty much anything in the US) but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s entirely fair.  I know it&#039;s not fair, because if we started the same thing again today we&#039;d do many few things differently - especially when it comes to fundraising.

Ultimately, as I&#039;ve not yet successfully raised a major round, I&#039;m not yet in a position to make a serious comment on the UK angel &quot;scene&quot;.  Nonetheless, what I *do* know is that raising money is sufficiently hard here that, should you not succeed, it&#039;s probably because your business isn&#039;t ready yet.  In a way, I&#039;m happy that European investors aren&#039;t chucking their money at every NewsFriendFeedTweeter.com that comes along.  The only down-side I see is that there aren&#039;t enough failed post-angel/Series A companies around to fill the ecosystem with battle-hardened entrepreneurs; it&#039;s a bit all-or-nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel &#8211; I feel a bit awkward discussing this on a VC&#8217;s blog, especially one who&#8217;s been so supportive as Nic&#8230; but I&#8217;ll respond anyway <img src='http://www.theequitykicker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the one hand, you&#8217;re right in that the userbase shouldn&#8217;t have been an issue; MyBlogLog had about 50k users when it was sold to Yahoo for $10m and their data isn&#8217;t a patch on ours in terms of quality.  Furthermore, our service solved real problems in the market (both in a B2C and B2B sense).  However, it&#8217;s worth recognising that they sold because a) they had a vast amount of user cookies b) it was at a time when yahoo would have paid anything to get what was effectively a very comprehensive survey of the blogosphere.  I.e. they were lucky &#8211; something that Rafer&#8217;s happy to admit.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the reality was that we didn&#8217;t communicate our business plan well enough and fast enough to the right people.  Now, you might argue that UK angels don&#8217;t take enough risks (versus seemingly funding pretty much anything in the US) but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s entirely fair.  I know it&#8217;s not fair, because if we started the same thing again today we&#8217;d do many few things differently &#8211; especially when it comes to fundraising.</p>
<p>Ultimately, as I&#8217;ve not yet successfully raised a major round, I&#8217;m not yet in a position to make a serious comment on the UK angel &#8220;scene&#8221;.  Nonetheless, what I *do* know is that raising money is sufficiently hard here that, should you not succeed, it&#8217;s probably because your business isn&#8217;t ready yet.  In a way, I&#8217;m happy that European investors aren&#8217;t chucking their money at every NewsFriendFeedTweeter.com that comes along.  The only down-side I see is that there aren&#8217;t enough failed post-angel/Series A companies around to fill the ecosystem with battle-hardened entrepreneurs; it&#8217;s a bit all-or-nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jof Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2008/03/31/blogfriends-shuts-down/#comment-11213</link>
		<dc:creator>Jof Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel - I feel a bit awkward discussing this on a VC&#039;s blog, especially one who&#039;s been so supportive as Nic... but I&#039;ll respond anyway ;-)

On the one hand, you&#039;re right in that the userbase shouldn&#039;t have been an issue; MyBlogLog had about 50k users when it was sold to Yahoo for $10m and their data isn&#039;t a patch on ours in terms of quality.  Furthermore, our service solved real problems in the market (both in a B2C and B2B sense).  However, it&#039;s worth recognising that they sold because a) they had a vast amount of user cookies b) it was at a time when yahoo would have paid anything to get what was effectively a very comprehensive survey of the blogosphere.  I.e. they were lucky - something that Rafer&#039;s happy to admit.

On the other hand, the reality was that we didn&#039;t communicate our business plan well enough and fast enough to the right people.  Now, you might argue that UK angels don&#039;t take enough risks (versus seemingly funding pretty much anything in the US) but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s entirely fair.  I know it&#039;s not fair, because if we started the same thing again today we&#039;d do many few things differently - especially when it comes to fundraising.

Ultimately, as I&#039;ve not yet successfully raised a major round, I&#039;m not yet in a position to make a serious comment on the UK angel &quot;scene&quot;.  Nonetheless, what I *do* know is that raising money is sufficiently hard here that, should you not succeed, it&#039;s probably because your business isn&#039;t ready yet.  In a way, I&#039;m happy that European investors aren&#039;t chucking their money at every NewsFriendFeedTweeter.com that comes along.  The only down-side I see is that there aren&#039;t enough failed post-angel/Series A companies around to fill the ecosystem with battle-hardened entrepreneurs; it&#039;s a bit all-or-nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel &#8211; I feel a bit awkward discussing this on a VC&#8217;s blog, especially one who&#8217;s been so supportive as Nic&#8230; but I&#8217;ll respond anyway <img src='http://www.theequitykicker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the one hand, you&#8217;re right in that the userbase shouldn&#8217;t have been an issue; MyBlogLog had about 50k users when it was sold to Yahoo for $10m and their data isn&#8217;t a patch on ours in terms of quality.  Furthermore, our service solved real problems in the market (both in a B2C and B2B sense).  However, it&#8217;s worth recognising that they sold because a) they had a vast amount of user cookies b) it was at a time when yahoo would have paid anything to get what was effectively a very comprehensive survey of the blogosphere.  I.e. they were lucky &#8211; something that Rafer&#8217;s happy to admit.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the reality was that we didn&#8217;t communicate our business plan well enough and fast enough to the right people.  Now, you might argue that UK angels don&#8217;t take enough risks (versus seemingly funding pretty much anything in the US) but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s entirely fair.  I know it&#8217;s not fair, because if we started the same thing again today we&#8217;d do many few things differently &#8211; especially when it comes to fundraising.</p>
<p>Ultimately, as I&#8217;ve not yet successfully raised a major round, I&#8217;m not yet in a position to make a serious comment on the UK angel &#8220;scene&#8221;.  Nonetheless, what I *do* know is that raising money is sufficiently hard here that, should you not succeed, it&#8217;s probably because your business isn&#8217;t ready yet.  In a way, I&#8217;m happy that European investors aren&#8217;t chucking their money at every NewsFriendFeedTweeter.com that comes along.  The only down-side I see is that there aren&#8217;t enough failed post-angel/Series A companies around to fill the ecosystem with battle-hardened entrepreneurs; it&#8217;s a bit all-or-nothing.</p>
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