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	<title>Comments on: Internet TV &#8211; Unclear how it is going to work</title>
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	<description>Nic Brisbourne's view from London on venture capital and exploiting change in technology and media</description>
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		<title>By: Affordable Software</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-6301</link>
		<dc:creator>Affordable Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m creating software now that will stream right to a new chip that intel is making in the new mobos for the quadcore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m creating software now that will stream right to a new chip that intel is making in the new mobos for the quadcore.</p>
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		<title>By: Affordable Software</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-4770</link>
		<dc:creator>Affordable Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m creating software now that will stream right to a new chip that intel is making in the new mobos for the quadcore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m creating software now that will stream right to a new chip that intel is making in the new mobos for the quadcore.</p>
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		<title>By: The failure of BT Vision &#124; The Equity Kicker</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-3419</link>
		<dc:creator>The failure of BT Vision &#124; The Equity Kicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in May last year I wrote a post wondering if BT would get the retail proposition for BT Vision right.&#160; An article in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in May last year I wrote a post wondering if BT would get the retail proposition for BT Vision right.&nbsp; An article in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kerry ritz</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>kerry ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it looks like the correct link to Vingo should be www.vingo.tv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it looks like the correct link to Vingo should be <a href="http://www.vingo.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.vingo.tv</a></p>
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		<title>By: kerry ritz</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-10754</link>
		<dc:creator>kerry ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it looks like the correct link to Vingo should be www.vingo.tv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it looks like the correct link to Vingo should be <a href="http://www.vingo.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.vingo.tv</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Smirl</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Smirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 12:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPTV receivers already exist but most people wouldn&#039;t recognize them for what they are. The DLink DSM-520 is one, it is a UPNP AV Media Player. I have a Twonky Media Server which I record shows on using MythTV. Together these two pieces provide a local video on demand capability.

Once the global protocols are agreed on, the firmware in the DSM-520 could be modified to pull content down from the Internet.

Note that the DSM-520 doesn&#039;t need a fancy TV, it will hook up to any computer monitor. You get optical/coax audio out for a 5.1 stereo.

The biggest barrier to more devices like this is the MPAA and their &quot;protected video path&quot;. I have FIOS now and all of the channels are encrypted. I have to get a settop box from Verizon for every TV I want to use. With Comcast this wasn&#039;t the case, the first 60 or so channels were not encrypted. I find it extremely annoying that content I have paid for continues to be encrypted inside my home. This is almost enough to make me get rid of FIOS, but I recognize that it is not Verizon&#039;s fault. I&#039;m sure the MPAA is going to try an push onerous encryption requirements on to IPTV too.

Intel is behind UPNP.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438&amp;sec=0
http://www.twonkymedia.com/
http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/overview/index.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPTV receivers already exist but most people wouldn&#8217;t recognize them for what they are. The DLink DSM-520 is one, it is a UPNP AV Media Player. I have a Twonky Media Server which I record shows on using MythTV. Together these two pieces provide a local video on demand capability.</p>
<p>Once the global protocols are agreed on, the firmware in the DSM-520 could be modified to pull content down from the Internet.</p>
<p>Note that the DSM-520 doesn&#8217;t need a fancy TV, it will hook up to any computer monitor. You get optical/coax audio out for a 5.1 stereo.</p>
<p>The biggest barrier to more devices like this is the MPAA and their &#8220;protected video path&#8221;. I have FIOS now and all of the channels are encrypted. I have to get a settop box from Verizon for every TV I want to use. With Comcast this wasn&#8217;t the case, the first 60 or so channels were not encrypted. I find it extremely annoying that content I have paid for continues to be encrypted inside my home. This is almost enough to make me get rid of FIOS, but I recognize that it is not Verizon&#8217;s fault. I&#8217;m sure the MPAA is going to try an push onerous encryption requirements on to IPTV too.</p>
<p>Intel is behind UPNP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438&#038;sec=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438&#038;sec=0</a><br />
<a href="http://www.twonkymedia.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.twonkymedia.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/overview/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/overview/index.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Smirl</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-10753</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Smirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPTV receivers already exist but most people wouldn&#039;t recognize them for what they are. The DLink DSM-520 is one, it is a UPNP AV Media Player. I have a Twonky Media Server which I record shows on using MythTV. Together these two pieces provide a local video on demand capability.

Once the global protocols are agreed on, the firmware in the DSM-520 could be modified to pull content down from the Internet.

Note that the DSM-520 doesn&#039;t need a fancy TV, it will hook up to any computer monitor. You get optical/coax audio out for a 5.1 stereo.

The biggest barrier to more devices like this is the MPAA and their &quot;protected video path&quot;. I have FIOS now and all of the channels are encrypted. I have to get a settop box from Verizon for every TV I want to use. With Comcast this wasn&#039;t the case, the first 60 or so channels were not encrypted. I find it extremely annoying that content I have paid for continues to be encrypted inside my home. This is almost enough to make me get rid of FIOS, but I recognize that it is not Verizon&#039;s fault. I&#039;m sure the MPAA is going to try an push onerous encryption requirements on to IPTV too.

Intel is behind UPNP.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438&amp;sec=0
http://www.twonkymedia.com/
http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/overview/index.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPTV receivers already exist but most people wouldn&#8217;t recognize them for what they are. The DLink DSM-520 is one, it is a UPNP AV Media Player. I have a Twonky Media Server which I record shows on using MythTV. Together these two pieces provide a local video on demand capability.</p>
<p>Once the global protocols are agreed on, the firmware in the DSM-520 could be modified to pull content down from the Internet.</p>
<p>Note that the DSM-520 doesn&#8217;t need a fancy TV, it will hook up to any computer monitor. You get optical/coax audio out for a 5.1 stereo.</p>
<p>The biggest barrier to more devices like this is the MPAA and their &#8220;protected video path&#8221;. I have FIOS now and all of the channels are encrypted. I have to get a settop box from Verizon for every TV I want to use. With Comcast this wasn&#8217;t the case, the first 60 or so channels were not encrypted. I find it extremely annoying that content I have paid for continues to be encrypted inside my home. This is almost enough to make me get rid of FIOS, but I recognize that it is not Verizon&#8217;s fault. I&#8217;m sure the MPAA is going to try an push onerous encryption requirements on to IPTV too.</p>
<p>Intel is behind UPNP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438&#038;sec=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438&#038;sec=0</a><br />
<a href="http://www.twonkymedia.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.twonkymedia.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/overview/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/overview/index.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: azeem</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>azeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 09:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nic,

The economics of BT Vision are interesting--I wonder how it will play out if BT achieves a meaningful level of penetration off any individual DSLAM. Is this a business predicated on low penetration? It would be interested to see how VideoNet is doing under Tiscali right now. 

On model 2, p2p, there is the challenge from the ISPs. A bigger challenge with Joost is that they are also trying to change behaviour, and I am not sure how that will play out compared to the availability of video content on YouTube, et al. Am sure Joost will create hooks into the establish clickstream, but they&#039;ll need to.

On the niche channels, I question the economics as well. (Look at Aggregator.tv!) In particular, the platform one builds is solely an increasingly affordable Web streaming platform, but every niche you create has the same unattractive economics (develop content expertise, recruit users, sell niche advertising). It becomes ugly and unscalable.

To this you can add what I would describe as &#039;zeroconf&#039; IPTV distribution platforms. Inuk Networks is one which I am involved in. Protocol agnostic, standard, understandable content (Multichannel package) and then rolling out more niche content across the platform. You shd take a look,
aa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nic,</p>
<p>The economics of BT Vision are interesting&#8211;I wonder how it will play out if BT achieves a meaningful level of penetration off any individual DSLAM. Is this a business predicated on low penetration? It would be interested to see how VideoNet is doing under Tiscali right now. </p>
<p>On model 2, p2p, there is the challenge from the ISPs. A bigger challenge with Joost is that they are also trying to change behaviour, and I am not sure how that will play out compared to the availability of video content on YouTube, et al. Am sure Joost will create hooks into the establish clickstream, but they&#8217;ll need to.</p>
<p>On the niche channels, I question the economics as well. (Look at Aggregator.tv!) In particular, the platform one builds is solely an increasingly affordable Web streaming platform, but every niche you create has the same unattractive economics (develop content expertise, recruit users, sell niche advertising). It becomes ugly and unscalable.</p>
<p>To this you can add what I would describe as &#8216;zeroconf&#8217; IPTV distribution platforms. Inuk Networks is one which I am involved in. Protocol agnostic, standard, understandable content (Multichannel package) and then rolling out more niche content across the platform. You shd take a look,<br />
aa</p>
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		<title>By: azeem</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-10752</link>
		<dc:creator>azeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 09:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nic,

The economics of BT Vision are interesting--I wonder how it will play out if BT achieves a meaningful level of penetration off any individual DSLAM. Is this a business predicated on low penetration? It would be interested to see how VideoNet is doing under Tiscali right now. 

On model 2, p2p, there is the challenge from the ISPs. A bigger challenge with Joost is that they are also trying to change behaviour, and I am not sure how that will play out compared to the availability of video content on YouTube, et al. Am sure Joost will create hooks into the establish clickstream, but they&#039;ll need to.

On the niche channels, I question the economics as well. (Look at Aggregator.tv!) In particular, the platform one builds is solely an increasingly affordable Web streaming platform, but every niche you create has the same unattractive economics (develop content expertise, recruit users, sell niche advertising). It becomes ugly and unscalable.

To this you can add what I would describe as &#039;zeroconf&#039; IPTV distribution platforms. Inuk Networks is one which I am involved in. Protocol agnostic, standard, understandable content (Multichannel package) and then rolling out more niche content across the platform. You shd take a look,
aa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nic,</p>
<p>The economics of BT Vision are interesting&#8211;I wonder how it will play out if BT achieves a meaningful level of penetration off any individual DSLAM. Is this a business predicated on low penetration? It would be interested to see how VideoNet is doing under Tiscali right now. </p>
<p>On model 2, p2p, there is the challenge from the ISPs. A bigger challenge with Joost is that they are also trying to change behaviour, and I am not sure how that will play out compared to the availability of video content on YouTube, et al. Am sure Joost will create hooks into the establish clickstream, but they&#8217;ll need to.</p>
<p>On the niche channels, I question the economics as well. (Look at Aggregator.tv!) In particular, the platform one builds is solely an increasingly affordable Web streaming platform, but every niche you create has the same unattractive economics (develop content expertise, recruit users, sell niche advertising). It becomes ugly and unscalable.</p>
<p>To this you can add what I would describe as &#8216;zeroconf&#8217; IPTV distribution platforms. Inuk Networks is one which I am involved in. Protocol agnostic, standard, understandable content (Multichannel package) and then rolling out more niche content across the platform. You shd take a look,<br />
aa</p>
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		<title>By: mcsteen</title>
		<link>http://www.theequitykicker.com/2007/05/24/internet-tv-unclear-how-it-is-going-to-work/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>mcsteen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

The answer to your question is in the illustration that accompaines your blog entry.
It is essentially the supply chain for content delivery over the internet. When you examine the diagram to determine the weakest link (and the problem with content delivery) what do you discover? It is not the provider and their format, that&#039;s been solved. It could be the Internet cloud because there are many layers to the cloud, but the network does work the way it was designed, although it needs some vast improvements. It&#039;s not the TV because it does what is supposed to do. The weakest link is the PC. It is trying to do something it was not originally intended to do, that is: be a consumer electronic device that delivers rich media content. Part of the problem, well actually all of the problem, lies in the operating systems. OS systems today try to do everything, and specialize in nothing. The multipurpose operating system creates problems when you need resources for rich multimedia. If you want to get high quality resolution and throughput you need better controls over processing. The Xbox is a perfect example. It doesnt need all the baggage of windows because you are only going to be running games on it or MS Live. So the answer to the problem of  delivering high quality content on the network is to develop a system and method that is similar to the Xbox, PS3, and Wii where the game console has specific processing functions and the smarts are in the cartridge. Yes, that would mean that every content provider would have their own operating system that allowed them to control the distribution and delivery of their content. Nutty, I know. So how does every content provider get their own operating system? Well that is the secret sauce of course, and you wanted responses on a &quot;postcard&quot;. If you would like some more details, we have buckets of code and documentation for you to look at. Fun Stuff!!

I bet it just dawned on you that if content providers had their own operating system that they could offer thousands of services beyond their own content to that consumer. And that every consumer with that OS is now a node in the content providers network. That&#039;s compelling!

michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>The answer to your question is in the illustration that accompaines your blog entry.<br />
It is essentially the supply chain for content delivery over the internet. When you examine the diagram to determine the weakest link (and the problem with content delivery) what do you discover? It is not the provider and their format, that&#8217;s been solved. It could be the Internet cloud because there are many layers to the cloud, but the network does work the way it was designed, although it needs some vast improvements. It&#8217;s not the TV because it does what is supposed to do. The weakest link is the PC. It is trying to do something it was not originally intended to do, that is: be a consumer electronic device that delivers rich media content. Part of the problem, well actually all of the problem, lies in the operating systems. OS systems today try to do everything, and specialize in nothing. The multipurpose operating system creates problems when you need resources for rich multimedia. If you want to get high quality resolution and throughput you need better controls over processing. The Xbox is a perfect example. It doesnt need all the baggage of windows because you are only going to be running games on it or MS Live. So the answer to the problem of  delivering high quality content on the network is to develop a system and method that is similar to the Xbox, PS3, and Wii where the game console has specific processing functions and the smarts are in the cartridge. Yes, that would mean that every content provider would have their own operating system that allowed them to control the distribution and delivery of their content. Nutty, I know. So how does every content provider get their own operating system? Well that is the secret sauce of course, and you wanted responses on a &#8220;postcard&#8221;. If you would like some more details, we have buckets of code and documentation for you to look at. Fun Stuff!!</p>
<p>I bet it just dawned on you that if content providers had their own operating system that they could offer thousands of services beyond their own content to that consumer. And that every consumer with that OS is now a node in the content providers network. That&#8217;s compelling!</p>
<p>michael</p>
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